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by: bco gal

07/01/08 @ 11:11:16 AM MDT


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In a few days we celebrate the 232nd anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. An excerpt from this historic document:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. - That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

 
bco gal :: Trivia Tuesday - The Fight for Independence
While doing a bit of research for today's Trivia Tuesday, which will be focused on the period around the birth of our country, I ran across a book entitled "The Unknown American Revolution: The Unruly Birth of Democracy and the Struggle to Create America".

Within this book the author looks beyond the players well known to most of us and instead focuses on the social and economic issues that radicalized many of the colonists and led them on the path to revolution.

Though the Founding Fathers have been celebrated for signing the Declaration of Independence and thus laying their lives on the line, as this book points out, there were many other players who deserve recognition for the brave steps they took leading up to acts taken that hot Philadelphia summer of 1776. I highly recommend it as a read to see a broader picture of the people and movements that shaped our movement to independence.

And with that, let's begin our questions for today. As always, no using the internet to find your answers and you can pose your own questions below.

Good luck!

#1 - A mid 17th-century British political group, (who were committed broadly to, among other issues, the abolition of corruption within the Parliamentary and judicial process, toleration of religious differences, and some kind of expansion of the suffrage) influenced some pre-Revolutionary activists. What was the name of this British group? Now this may seem like a very obscure reference, but here's a big hint, a fellow SquareStater has the same name.

#2 - What was the name of the group that Ethan Allen led?

#3 - Who said this quote: "The distinctions between Virginians, Pennsylvanians, New Yorkers and New Englanders are no more. I am not a Virginian, but an American". Hint, - it's not Jefferson or Washington.

#4 - An influential religious movement began in America just prior to the Revolution. This movement (as defined by the author referenced above) viewed God not operating "through the elite corps of learned clergy and their aristocratic allies. Rather, God worked through the inner light given to every man and woman regardless of their station in life, with lack of education or even slave status posing no barrier to achieving grace through the conversion experience." What was the name of this religious movement?

#5 - Within five either way, how many grievances were there in the Declaration of Independence?

#6 - Which treaty, signed on September 3, 1782 and ratified on April 17, 1783, officially ended the revolution?

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No. 1 (4.00 / 2)
The Levellers.  Also an English band from the '80s IIRC.

Illegal is never a noun

Where are the easy questions? (4.00 / 2)
#2. Green Mountain Boys
#3. James Madison

#5. Alot.

Okay, what do I win?


About those questions (4.00 / 2)
There are weeks when I worry that I made them to hard and others when ya'll whip threw them in an hour. I think this week is more of the former rather then the latter.

But on to your answers!

#2 - Yes! (Not to be confused with the Soggy Bottom Boys)
#3 - Nope, not Madison
#5 - Well, yes indeed, there were alot. Hint - it's less than 50.

And what do you win? The admiration of a grateful nation.


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Gee, thank you so very much. (4.00 / 1)
So technically, #5 is right? :) Hehehe...

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For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences (4.00 / 2)
It's OK if we look at a physical copy of the Declaration, right?

No. 5. I count 26 grievances. Many of which (I'm not being cute here) could be leveled against the current administration.

No. 4. The inner light is a Quaker doctrine, so this movement must have been an offshoot of the Quakers. I could guess it was the Shakers or the New Quakers, but not sure it was the former or that the latter was particularly influential. Something else?

No. 6. The Treaty of Paris

Bonus question: What distinction did Richard Nixon and Betsy Ross share?


Sure, a peek is fine (4.00 / 1)
I'm impressed you have your own copy of this document. Does the National Archives know about this ;-)

#4 - This movement wasn't really an offshoot of the Quakers (as prevalent as they were at the time). These ideas had been percolating, in some form, since the English Civil War of the 17th century. It became a self-driven movement that caused a lot of consternation with the powerful colonial Anglican church.

#5 - Very good! The total according to my references is 27. And yes, I so hear you about relating it to current events (this the reason I specifically posted the second paragraph in the blockquote at the beginning of this diary).

#6 - Correct!


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Doesn't everyone have a copy of the Declaration? (4.00 / 1)
I think I even have one of those replicas with burnt edges lying around somewhere. An abandoned decoupage project from childhood maybe.

No. 4. OK, you gave it away with the opposition to the Anglicans. That would be the Episcopalians. Didn't I read somewhere that more American presidents have been Episcopal than any other faith?

No guess on my bonus question?


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Nope (4.00 / 1)
Not the Episcopalians.

The movement wasn't so much a name of a branch of the Christian church (such as Lutherans, Methodists, etc) as it is something along the line of a term such as "Gilded Age" is in reference to that period of 19th century American history.  

Oh, and as for your bonus, were they both Quakers?


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Both Quakers (4.00 / 1)
Yes, and I think they both took some heat from establishment Quakers for their warmongering.

Movement ... would that be Abolitionism?

The Episcopals broke with the Anglicans in the Colonies during the period you describe -- pertinent to the Fight for Independence topic, as the Anglicans were known as the Churck of England. But the description you cite has nothing to do with Episcopalians, per se, so can I can get a "thematically correct best guess" even if the answer was wrong?

No. 3. Monroe?


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"I am not a Virginian, but an American." (4.00 / 1)
No. 3. The other Virginians prominent enough to merit a citation for a quote like that ... Patrick Henry or George Mason?  

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Yes, it is one of those two (4.00 / 1)
But which one?

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Since Mason didn't sign the Declaration (4.00 / 2)
because it lacked the protections that would become the Bill of Rights, thus marginalizing himself to history while becoming known as the Father of the Bill of Rights (a mixed distinction), I'd guess Patrick Henry.

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Oops (0.00 / 0)
Declaration of Independence on the brain (appropriately this week). I mean, he didn't sign the Constitution because it lacked a Bill of Rights.

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Yep! (0.00 / 0)
It was Patrick Henry.

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Could it be (4.00 / 1)
the Mennonites?

I'm with you on Betsy Ross and Richard Nixon.

Illegal is never a noun


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Nope (0.00 / 0)
not the Mennonites.

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No ruling (0.00 / 0)
on my answer for No. 4 a few posts above? (after Episcopal, before the Virginians.)

Here are a few extra-credit questions:

7. While their paths crossed many times during the Revolutionary era, what particular distinction do  John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Philip Livingston and Roger Sherman share?

8. Which famous couple was the first to celebrate Independence Day west of the Mississippi? (Bonus: What year did they accomplish this feat?)

9. the Fourth of July wasn't declared a Federal Holiday until what year? (It's later than you might guess.)

9b. The Fourth of July is one of the few Federal holidays that never do this.


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#4 (0.00 / 0)
We do need the specific movement. And since it's the next day I'll give you the answer. It was the Great Awakening.

Now, as for your questions, hmmm.....

#7 - All I can thing of is at one point they were Ambassadors to a European country.
#8 - Was it Lewis and Clark?


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The Great Awakening (0.00 / 0)
Ah!

No. 7 - No, think about the trivia topic ...

No. 8 - CORRECT! They had a number of firsts, and this was among them.


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