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by: Frankenoid

06/23/08 @ 03:10:31 PM MDT


For a couple of weeks now, I've been railing about the lack of a "donation" link on the Democratic National Convention website, especially given the much-publicized fund raising shortage by the convention "host committee".  I mean, our presumptive candidate is a master at web-based fund raising.  The Chairman of the DNC, the Good Doctor Dean, started the trend during his own primary run back in 2004.

I sent an e-mail to the link on the web site asking: why?

And I received an "out of office" auto-reply.  Actually, it wasn't an "out of office" reply: that's just what the re: line read.  It actually was a "we're far too busy to reply to e-mails" auto reply.

Again -- WTF?

Update: Now posted at Daily Kos: Help Us Herd Cats in Denver

Frankenoid :: Are We Confused Yet?
So today, I called the phone number listed on the website.  I stated my question and, after being grilled about whether I was with the media (uhm, no -- I'm a Denver resident, and a citizen of the blogosphere, posting at Daily Kos and Square State), I was passed on to someone in the press relations department (which leads to the additional question: why would it matter if I was with the media if I was going to the press liaison anyway?).

The gentleman I spoke to explained that www.demconvention.com -- the "Official 2008 Democratic Convention Website" -- was legally prevented from having a "contribute" link on their site; there's another website where one can make on-line contributions to the host committee: Democratic National Convention --
Denver 2008 Convention Host Committee

So I asked: OK, if you are prevented from fund raising on "The Official 2008 Democratic Convention" site, could you not provide a link to the host committee site donation page?

I was told that was also illegal.

Yet another WTF moment.

OK, so how about you just have a link, not to the donation page of the host committee, but a link to the home page?  Anything illegal about that?

The gentlemen was unsure -- it seemed to be something they hadn't even considered linking to on the "Official 2008 Democratic Convention Website" (and, uhm, another stupid girl question but, isn't the host committee a pretty fucking major part of the Official Democratic National Convention?  I know, I know -- I'm just a girl).

I also pointed out that it was really, really bad form to have the "information" e-mail send out auto-replies that say "out of office" in the re line, and inside the message state that they are much, much too busy to reply to e-mails requesting information.

Oh, and to get even more confusing, if one googles "denver democratic national convention", one will come up with yet another website: Democratic National Convention - 2008 DNC Denver Info & forums -- I think this one is run by the DNC (that's my assumption, as there's a place to donate to the DNC -- but not an option to donate to the host committee).  However, at least they do have a link to the host committee site.

So there we have it: the Democrats are herding cats.  Three separate websites for one convention, each "official" in its own very special way.

If you want to make an on-line donation to the Host Committee -- you know, to make us locals look good -- you don't go to the "official" 2008 Democratic National Convention web site.  You go here.

I'll clean this up and post it on dKos tomorrow.  Anyone else have any input?  Like, perhaps, an explanation of what election law would prevent the "Official 2008 Democratic Convention" site from assisting the host committee in fundraising?

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I dunno (4.00 / 5)
this just seems so stooooopid.

McCain/Palin: Because all cats are gray in the dark

Oh dear (4.00 / 1)
I know not everyone assigned a keyboard has had a chance to develop the brain-gills needed to breathe in the blogosphere...but it sounds like some folks behind some official desks may be a little oxygen-depleted in Real Life.

Take heart! http://codeneonblue.net

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don't think a link would be enough (4.00 / 1)
If they wanted the netroots to help them fundraise they would have asked.

Looks like one of those is an unofficial site.

revolution from within


No, I'm 99.9% sure (4.00 / 2)
they are each "official" in their own way; it just seems that they aren't very well coordinated.

McCain/Palin: Because all cats are gray in the dark

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www.denverdnc2008.com is quite unofficial (4.00 / 1)
It even says so at the bottom of the website: " UNOFFICIAL DNC 2008 SITE - Brought to you by citizens who support the 2008 DNC in Denver."

Good thing you left yourself a 0.1% out!

DemConWatch


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I always give myself a 0.1% out (5.00 / 1)
I'm agnostic.

McCain/Palin: Because all cats are gray in the dark

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Tax Issues (4.00 / 3)
Under our tax laws, the DNCC is in a tricky spot. To be tax exempt the people raising the money aren't actually integrated with the party, but are set up to do events (and by 'events' I mean one) for the benefit of the City of Denver.

The host committee is allowed to raise money. The convention committee is allowed to spend money. The two of them have to stay firmly on their own sides of the fence.

There are even issues if they want to use the same email lists or take advantage of the mybarackobama.com tools.


But would that (4.00 / 1)
prevent them from linking to the home page of the host committee website?  Or, at least, providing an explanation of why there is no donation link?

McCain/Palin: Because all cats are gray in the dark

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There are ways around it (4.00 / 4)
For instance selling "ad space" to one another, or just cross-linking as it's an equivalent exchange of value.

Organizations have been doing this forever.

That's how we have the MoveOn 501(c)(3), the MoveOn 501(c)(4), the MoveOn PAC, and the MoveOn 527.

Or in 2006, Coloradans for Fairness and Equality, Coloradans for Fairness and Equality Action Fund, Coloradans for Fairness Issue Committee, etc. all for Ref. I. and Amdt. 43.

More here: http://www.afj.org/for-nonprof...


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There May Be a State Issue, Too (0.00 / 0)
There are restrictions on campaigns, campaign committees and the various state parties coordinating their activities in Colorado, and this could be responsible for some of this confusion.  I suggest you contact someone at the DNC, CDC or Denver party to get an idea of these restrictions.  

Frankie's Diary Rescued at the Big Orange! (0.00 / 0)
That's the third one in the past week from writers on S2. Way. To. Go! Frankie. Link.

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McCain/Palin: Because all cats are gray in the dark

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I missed you too! (0.00 / 0)
Life in the mountains is just too hectic right now. I am taking the week to try to get caught up on life so that I can do fun stuff.  

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