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by: pacified

02/15/08 @ 07:37:10 PM MST


From NPR we see why the Bush Republicans refused to renew the Protect America Act:

NPR: (Senate Minority Leader and Republican) Mr. McConnell, the Bush administration says that if the Protect America Act isn't made permanent, it will tie your hands, intelligence hands, especially when it comes to new threats. But isn't it true that any surveillance underway does not expire, even if this law isn't renewed by tomorrow?

MCCONNELL: Well, Renee it's a very complex issue. It's true that some of the authorities would carry over to the period they were established for one year. That would put us into the August, September time-frame. However, that's not the real issue. The issue is liability protection for the private sector.

But as Glenn Greenwald delves into and mcjoan put succinctly:

It's not just so that AT&T and Verison aren't held accountable. It's to prevent legal action going forward that, in the discovery process, would expose the full extent of the administration's illegal activity.

Keith Olbermann called it out in a Special Comment last night.  

Even the Rocky got it in an editorial today:

If immunity is in the final legislation - and Bush has said he'd veto any bill that doesn't include it - it would kill the 40-plus lawsuits that have been filed against telecoms in federal court. The litigation challenges the legality of the program and the actions of telecoms that cooperated with the government.

If the lawsuits don't move forward, we may never learn if some telecoms compromised the privacy of innocent Americans. A grant of immunity could also set a dangerous precedent for other businesses when federal agents or local cops who don't have a court order demand private or confidential information about their customers....

And then there's Ken Salazar's vote on Dodd's Amendment to strip out immunity.

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to vote against the bill and for our Constitution.  

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Salazar = Downticket Poison (0.00 / 0)
Two years from now the marquee race in Colorado will be the US Senate contest. Despite the quixotic efforts of the Denver Post Bill Ritter is likely to remain popular and stroll toward another 4 years in the governor's mansion. Our Democratic state legislature continues to perform well, and the minority GOP continues to demonstrate why it needs to remain seated at the children's table. The weakest link is Sen. Ken Salazar, and this is where the Republicans will apply pressure. Given a choice, GOP voters will opt for a real Republican over some guy who just plays one on TV. Among Democrats Salazar is quickly becoming a demoralizing presence with even precinct captains vowing not to support him him in the general election. Meanwhile, it is unlikely that unaffiliated voters will find much to like in a candidate quickly coming to be hated and shunned within his own party. What this means for the 2010 election is that more voters on our side than the GOP side will sit out the off year election. With Ritter running strong and Salazar continuing in his overly earnest vacillation, we can anticipate substantial downticket carnage.

There is no elite...so take your place in the driver's seat.

yeah, but WHO (4.00 / 1)
who on the D side is going to be able to take on Salazar?

Any current elected Dem isn't going to rock the boat.  Would running a primary  against Salazar good for one's future in the party?

He's going to have a ton of money and the whole system behind him.  

Say we do get a Dem President.  Say we do pick up 2 or 3 more seats in the Senate.  Then we'll really see.


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"Ken Salazar, you are the weakest link. Goodbye." (0.00 / 0)
Unfortunately, you may be right. Ken Salazar has the Colorado Democratic Party worried at this point, but institutional inertia will probably result in KS's return to the ballot. Then he will lose and take some halfway decent Democrats down with him. But I like to be optimistic. I still want to think that self-preservation will win out over habit and money. I hear Ken has a new grandkid coming. Here's hoping that he'll want to spend more time with his family.

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